LENGTH: 56:35 min
PRODUCER:
Stranger Productions
AUDIENCE LEVEL: 9-12, Post Secondary
COPYRIGHT: 2017
ONTARIO CURRICULUM:
Arts, English 9-12
DETAILS:
Shut Up And Say Something follows Canadian icon and acclaimed international spoken word artist Shane Koyczan on an emotional road trip to reconnect with the father he never knew. Seen and heard by millions worldwide, Shane's poignant and powerful poems tackle everything from bullying to body image - but behind his larger-than-life stage persona is a private and awkward man. As Shane unravels the story behind his troubled childhood, we get a powerful and intimate look at how a master wordsmith mines the scars of his past for truth, acceptance and the most important poem of his life.
Coarse Language - viewer discretion is advised.
Please click here for the 82 minute version of this program.
TAGS:
- Authors, Canadian
- Canadian literature
- Identity (Philosophical concept)
- Indigenous authors - Canada
- Performing arts
- Poetry
- Spoken word poetry
AWARDS:
WINNER: VIFF – Most Popular Canadian Documentary
Official Selection: Salt Spring Film Festival, 2018
Official Selection: Calgary Film Festival 2017
TRANSCRIPT
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- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- When I go across the border
to perform in the States,
I have to tell them that
I'm coming across to work.
- And they always ask,
what's your business?
- Poetry.
- And nine times out of
10, they will look say,
poetry you like chicken?
- If I should die
today, tell the world
the things I could never say,
as if by saying them now,
I somehow said them
time and time again,
as if yesterday was when I
could say something to today.
- That way, the world could
hear me as loud and as clear
as the year the
world discovered.
- I was so far before my time
that my time left me behind
to remind time
that I'm here today
to say that I made
this time mine.
- Me and failure, we only
ever speak sign language.
- We have a limited
vocabulary, which
means we disagree constantly.
- And this is not to say
I've never known failure.
- I've taken her on double
dates with embarrassment
and humility.
- During dinner, we
sat silently watching
candles melt into sculptures
of all the things we've never
said but always felt. I've got
a black belt in the martial arts
discipline of
emotionally stunted.
- But I've seen people open
the lid on a can of worms
that they use to bait a hook
and go fishing for sympathy,
so I know I'm not alone in this.
- I'm not the only
one with problems,
and my problems are not unique.
- So every time in the moment
before I'm about to speak,
I remind myself to shut
up and say something.
- Tell me who-- who
is Shane Koyczan?
- Isn't that what you're--
To the bare bones,
like if a dictionary
had to write in Shane Koyczan.
- Who is Shane Koyczan?
- Fuck, I don't know.
- I don't fucking know.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- [CHEERING]
- Define Canada.
- You might say the home of the
Rockets or the Great One who
inspired little number 9's
and little number 99's.
- We're more than just
hockey and fishing lines
off the rocky coast
of the Maritimes.
- And some say what defines
us is something as simple
as please and thank you.
- I think Shane Koyczan
first came to my attention
at the Olympics.
- I see this guy, just an
ordinary looking guy,
come out and absolutely knock
the ball out of the park.
- When I was a kid, I hid
my heart under the bed,
because my mother said,
if you're not careful,
some day, someone's
going to break it.
- Take it from me, under the
bed is not a good hiding spot.
- I know, because I've been
shot down so many times
I get altitude sickness just
from standing up for myself.
- The relationship
that a performer
builds with their audience
is really strange.
- It's really intimate.
- If you want to be a
gripping performer, which
Shane is, he's a
terrific performer,
you have to be vulnerable.
- When somebody does that,
they're opening a vein.
- It's deeply intimate
and effective.
- Remember how we forgot?
- Remember how no one ever really
died in the wars we fought?
- Because each gunshot
came from our fingertips.
- And we never really kept
them loaded, just in case.
- Because each enemy was a friend.
- And none of it was about
oil, religion, or land.
- It was all just pretend.
- Remember how we used
to bend reality,
like we were circus strongman,
like our imaginations weren't
shaped then, like we were all
ninjas trained in deadly art of
did not.
- Like, I totally
got you, did not.
- Remember how we forgot?
- Remember how our
parents told us never
to look directly into the sun?
- And how we were their
sons, so we never
look directly in the mirror in
fear that we would go blind?
- Remember how we used to
find any old reason just
to call someone we
were crushing on,
like we were just pawing off
our sense of embarrassment.
- By a chunk of courage that
would last just long enough
it would have us asking
about math and stuff.
- And our stuff was
just stuff like, I
heard you getting braces,
and how braces somehow
were and still are kind of hot.
- Once upon a time, we were young.
- Our dreams hung
like apples waiting
to be picked and peeled.
- And hope was
something needed to be
reeled in so we can fill
the always empty big fish
bin with the one that
got away and proudly
say that this time
impossible is not an option,
because success is so akin to
effort and opportunity that
could be related.
- So we took chances.
- We figure skated on
thin ice, believed
that each slice of life
was served with something
sweet on the side.
- And failure was never nearly
as important as the fact
that we tried.
- Remember all the moments
that were and were not?
- Like the point is
something we can get.
- What we can get is what
we got, because all we
have are the times between the
moments we connect each dot.
- So, live and remember.
- Burned like an ember
capable of starting fires.
- Like each moment
inspires the next.
- Like the memories of the
context we put ourselves in so
that life becomes
the next of kin
we need to notify in the case of
a big bang or extinction level
event.
- Let now be our advent.
- Let us live like we meant it.
- Let us burn like we mean it.
- Because this world
doesn't give a shit
if we end in a
train wreck or a car
crash, if our story ends
with a dot or a dash,
if we were dust or ash.
- Because all we were
is all we'll be.
- And all we are is the in
between of so far, so good.
- So forget every would,
could, or should not.
- Forget remembering
how we forgot.
- Live like a plot twist.
- Exist now in a memory,
because we burn bright.
- Our light leave
scars on the sun.
- Let no one say we'll be
undone by time's passing.
- The memories we are amassing
will stand as testament.
- But somehow, we bent
minds around the concept
that we see others within
ourselves, that self knowledge
can be found on bookshelves.
- So who we are has no
bearing on how we appear.
- Look directly into every
mirror, realize our reflection
is first sentence to a story.
- And our story
starts, we were here.
- Thank you.
- I talk about openness a lot.
- I talk about being open and
being open to new ideas,
and things like that.
- And really opening up your
heart, and stuff like that.
- And I think the
reason I talk about
that stuff so much is because
I had a really hard time doing
it.
- And I can't do it all the time.
- And I think that's what my want.
- The overwhelming response that
he gets from people of all
walks of life,
from the big jocks,
to grandparents, to
young kids, to everybody.
- And for the most part,
he's incredibly gracious.
- And he listens to people.
- And he engages
with them in a way
that I think is really
meaningful to them.
- But also it's not disingenuous.
- I think it's really
meaningful to him as well.
- I just want to say thank you
for everything that you've done.
- You've helped me through
some hard times, for sure.
- And just, when you
came out and said
that you didn't cure
anything, I really
want you to know that you have.
- Oh, wow.
- Thank you, man.
- And I'm not for just me.
- There's other
people [INAUDIBLE]..
- What is your name?
- Dylan.
- Dylan, pleasure, man.
- Thank you.
- Thank you, man.
- Oh my god.
- People look up to him
a lot and expect--
expect him to be a bit of
a superhero with his words.
- That's a big weight to
carry around, I think.
- I feel like it must get lonely.
- [ALARM]
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- It's like treasure.
- Can I interest you in
some poetry, perhaps?
- The home isn't
complete without it.
- What is any encyclopedia?
- I have a weird relationship
with confidence.
- I can go and talk to
a roomful of strangers
and be totally,
like, uh, here it is.
- Here's my whole life.
- Just cut myself open
right down the middle.
- Let all the guts spill
out onto the stage.
- One on one, totally
different story.
- I just don't know how to
be around just a person,
because I didn't develop
those skills in school.
- One of the first lines of
poetry I can remember writing
was in response to a world
that demanded I hate myself.
- From age 15 to
18, I hated myself
for becoming the thing
that I loathed, a bully.
- When I was 19, I wrote
I will love myself
despite the ease with which
I lean toward the opposite.
- And I remember this plan
born out of frustration
from a kid who kept calling me
yogi and pointed to my tummy
and said, too many
picnic baskets.
- Turns out, it's not that
hard to trick someone.
- And one day before
class, I said, yeah,
you can copy my homework.
- And I gave him all
the wrong answers
that I'd written down
the night before.
- He got his paper back
expecting a near perfect score,
and couldn't believe
when they looked
across the room held up a zero.
- I knew I didn't have to hold
up my paper of 28 or 30,
but my satisfaction was complete
when he looked at me puzzled.
- And I thought to myself,
smarter than the average bear,
motherfucker.
- [LAUGHTER]
- He's got a very thick shell,
I imagine for a lot of people
would be very hard
to penetrate, very
hard to get to know
the real person.
- I wasn't old enough to remember
my mom and dad leaving me.
- I grew up believing that my
grandparents were my parents.
- It's the reason I called
my grandmother, mom.
- I don't call her grandma.
- And then one day at
school, somebody knew.
- Somebody knew that my
grandparents were not
my parents and that my
uncle was not my brother.
- And very innocently, without any
malice, just out of curiosity,
just out of being a kid,
being a child, just wanting
to know why I was
different, why my life was
different than their
life, they asked,
how come you're not
with your parents?
- Why are you being raised
by your grandparents?
- And that's where
everything sort of
fractured and became this really
sort of complicated spiral
fracture where it
felt like my legs
just sort of broke out
from underneath me.
- And I didn't have an
answer to that question.
- He was a broken branch grafted
onto a different family tree,
adopted, not because his parents
opted for a different destiny.
- He was three when he became a
mixed drink of one part left
alone and two parts tragedy.
- Started therapy in eighth grade.
- Had a personality made
up of tests and pills.
- Live like the uphills
were mountains
and the downhills were cliffs.
- Four fifths suicidal, a tidal
wave of antidepressants,
and an adolescent
being called hopper.
- One part because of
the pills, 99 parts
because of the cruelty.
- He tried to kill
himself in grade 10
when a kid could still go
home to mom and dad had
the audacity to tell
them get over it,
as if depression
is something that
could be remedied by any of the
contents found in a first aid
kit.
- To this day, he is a stick
of TNT lit from both ends,
could describe to
you in detail the way
the sky bends in a moment
before it's about to fall.
- And despite an army of friends
who call him an inspiration,
he remains a conversation
piece between people
who can understand.
- Sometimes being drug free
has less to do with addiction
and more to do with sanity.
- Shane lives far away
from any big city.
- And I don't blame him.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- The only time I really
remember meeting my dad,
I was 11 years old.
- I remember he took me and my
uncle out fishing one day.
- I've seen him twice
more since then.
- Both were at shows.
- To have lived a life--
39 years is a long time
to just say nothing.
- When are you going
to say something?
- It has to be now.
- Has it really been tough?
- What do you think?
- What do you think?
- I don't know.
- I think it's tough.
- Yeah.
- I don't think so much of a--
it's not the situation of--
like, he's your father,
and you're his son.
- It's just more like, what
do we say to each other?
- That's exactly it.
- It's fucking-- it's
really stressful.
- How do you start a
relationship from--
From fucking scratch 40
years after the fact.
- And it's not that I don't
want the relationship.
- It's just like,
it's really hard.
- It's really difficult.
- What do you see [INAUDIBLE]?
- Are you filming this right now?
- Yes.
- Oh, Jesus.
- I don't want you to
reuse any of this.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- Everyday, my grandma
would come in to my room.
- And I'd hear her
say, rise and shine.
- The world has a window that
holds a sign there's help
wanted out there
somewhere, young man.
- So I rose and I shine.
- I put on my shoes.
- And I was gone.
- See, grandma bought
me my first phone.
- She said, don't bother calling
people who've taken up a fight.
- Call the people who won't.
- And I learned at
a very young age
where my grandmother's
rage came from.
- The entire congregation
would nod and never
ask grandma about God.
- I'd argue with her every day.
- All she'd say is go
down to the store.
- Buy someone light bulbs.
- And when you run
out, buy some more.
- Because the light at
the end of your tunnel
needs to be maintained.
- You can't let it be sustained
by their beliefs rather
than your beliefs.
- And you can't agree to disagree,
because they're fucking wrong.
- Do you have a favorite
show you scenes of Shane's?
- I like all of them, because
that was the first time
I've ever seen him on stage.
- And he really--
how can I say it?
- His poems were very strong.
- And it's--
It's like my odor.
- Yeah.
- When you go to the bathroom.
- Oh, thank you.
- Awesome.
- You're welcome.
- All right.
- That was a free one.
- Oh, OK.
- Shane has come a
hell of a long ways.
- I'm a kid, too,
where he is today.
- People wonder why I have
such a crucial relationship
with my grandmother.
- And it's because she was
the one that was there.
- She was the one
that, whatever help
I needed, a cup of tea
at 4:00 in the morning.
- Do you think you'll ever get
over the pain his dad caused
him ?
- Well, I'm hoping.
- That's all you can
do, is to hope.
- It's hard for a kid
to be growing up
without a father and a mother,
and have the grandmother, who
thinks the world of him.
- Today we're driving
to go pick up
my dad who I have not seen
in a substantial amount time.
- And basically just
going to ask him some
questions about my
origins on this planet.
- Every superhero wants to
know their origin, right?
- Like, you have all of
these questions loaded up
in your mind.
- And you're like, OK, which ones
are even appropriate and ask?
- Which ones are
appropriate to start with?
- Or, is my fear of
what's appropriate
standing in my way of
getting my full story?
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- Do you-- are you hungry at all?
- Do you want to get
something to eat?
- No, I had a meal in--
OK.
- I felt very dangerously
on the border
of being stubborn my whole life.
- In some ways, it's
been very beneficial.
- But it's been very detrimental
in my personal relationships.
- It's like asking yourself the
question, what do you want.
- And a lot of times, in
order to get what you want,
you're going to have to change.
- If what you want is happiness,
and you're not that immediately
already, then some part
of you has to change.
- And change is always a
scary prospect for anybody.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- How do we get things going?
- So I guess the-- like, I mean--
the first thing,
like I mean-- tell me
a bit about you growing up.
- Tell me about your family.
- Your mom was Cree, right?
- Yeah.
- OK.
- And they lived outside
of the old Fort Ray
on the shore of the big lake.
- And so, for you growing up,
what was it like before--
when did they come and
get you and take you away
to residential school?
- I was-- I think I was
about 12 years old.
- And it wasn't just us.
- They just come in and rounded
a whole bunch of us up.
- And all of a sudden, we
didn't know what was going on.
- All of a sudden, we're
in a small plane flying.
- And they're taking us
away from our home.
- At the time, did
they even explain
to you what was going on,
why you were being taken?
- No.
- So, it was basically
like being kidnapped.
- Yeah, basically.
- And we didn't have a
clue what was going on.
- We didn't know how long
we're going to be there.
- We didn't know if we were
going to see our parents again.
- Like most teenagers in
the 60s and the 70s,
life was about fun.
- I met Barb at, of course,
at one of the parties.
- One thing led to another, and
nine months later we had Shane.
- It was a rude awakening.
- Like, I-- I was
not ready for it.
- Was it the stress and
responsibility of me that was--
No, no.
- It just-- I don't know.
- The drugs became a
big problem for me.
- Right.
- I had a run in with the law.
- And I come out on the loosing
end in prison for a year.
- When I come out, I had a
different outlook on life.
- I made contact with
Barb when I got out.
- But by then, she had
already started a new life.
- I wasn't about to upset
the apple cart there.
- Stay.
- That's what mothers say when
the sons and daughters go away.
- They say stay.
- My mother said go.
- So I wasn't there the
night she fell out
of her wheelchair so
frustrated that she
amputated her own
legs, or rather,
tried to with a steak knife.
- Her life leaking out
of a white floor,
blossoming like
roses in the snow.
- Our relationship was an
anthem composed of words
like gotta go.
- So we went.
- And sent our regards on
postcards from all the
places we'd been with stories
about all the things we'd seen.
- That's how it was
with you and I.
- Why say goodbye when
we could still write?
- But then it took your hands.
- We should have
practiced goodbyes.
- Because then it took your eyes.
- And I was somewhere in
the middle of nowhere,
watching the sunrise
over a stop sign placed
on the center line
of a highway filled
with sudden turns for the worse.
- Running back home, because
I got to play nurse.
- And all I could
say is if I could,
I would write you
some way out of this.
- But my gift is useless.
- And you said, no.
- Write me a poem
to make me happy.
- So I wrote move pen, move.
- Write me a bedroom where cures
make love to our cancers.
- But my mother just motions
to a bottle full of answers
and says, help me go.
- And now I know
something about how
a piano must feel when it looks
at the fireplace to see sheet
music being used for kindling.
- Smoke signaling at
the end of some song
that I thought it would
take too long to learn.
- So I just sit here
watching you burn away.
- All those notes I
never had a chance
to play, to hear the music
of what you had to say.
- So I hold my breath.
- Because in the countdown to
death, the question of why
melts into when.
- How much time do we have left,
because if I knew what I know
now then-- move, pen, move.
- Write me a mountain.
- Because headstones
are not big enough.
- And my mother says, stop it.
- Write me a poem
to make me happy.
- So I write this.
- Stay.
- She smiles and says, gotta go.
- I know.
- Goodbye.
- My mom's name was Barbara.
- I believe she was 17
years old when she had me.
- She passed away a while ago.
- Got MS, multiple sclerosis.
- Left knowing that she
was facing a disease that
was going to make it impossible
for her to be independent.
- I don't know if I'll ever see
that kind of bravery again.
- Thanks for coming.
- We'll see you.
- Welcome to our humble abode.
- I was just admiring
some of your art here.
- He'll never be Shane's father.
- I feel for Shane in so many
ways, because a lot of it
is just perpetuating a
mythology in your own head.
- And it's a question
of just realizing
you've got to give
that stuff up.
- And it's easier to say than
it is to actually do it.
- But I think there can be a
wonderful friendship there.
- Well, what I'd like to do
is basically the impossible.
- I'd like to go back in time
and have another shot at--
can't.
- To this day, I feel guilty
about not being there for Shane.
- If I had to do it over
again, like Loretta and Jerry
could still give Shane the
life that I never could.
- And even though I regret
it, I've not always
being there for Shane.
- I still think it was
the right choice.
- I'm just sorry I wasn't there
to be there for you more.
- How is it been with
your dad today?
- Challenging.
- You see, I got rid of all
the bad things in my life.
- And the only
addiction I have now
basically is my love of art.
- I love art.
- And I did at one time have an
art gallery up in the Yukon.
- I've got one of my
favorite paintings
that I told him I'd give him.
- It's my favorite painting
of a golden eagle.
- So I promised him that.
- So I'll give him that painting.
- This has been something
that we've both wanted
to happen for a long time.
- But we didn't know how to do it.
- And for me, I guess, doing
it this way with you guys
and having other
people around me
was a way to ensure that
I wouldn't chicken out.
- Because there was
no guarantee that--
he could have got here.
- And I could have just totally
like I changed my mind
and, said, you
know what, I'm not
going to bother having
this conversation.
- I needed to have
this conversation.
- It's a-- it's a good start.
- If you think it will be easy, if
you think the path will be laid
out for you, or that the
trail will have previously
been blazed, all obstacles
cleared, every footstep already
pioneered by those
who've gone before you,
you will be disappointed.
- It will require more than that.
- There will be no welcome
mat waiting to greet you
at the foot of this mountain.
- It exists only to task
you with discovering
how much deeper you can go.
- It will burden you
with the charge
of bringing to the
surface an understanding
of the misunderstood, the
excavation of an answer
to the question, what now?
- How do you keep going in
a world where the hellos
are outweighed by the goodbyes?
- How do you train
yourself to know
that you have to
battle through the fall
if you ever expect to rise?
- You have to accept the fact
that the size of the mountain
in front of you is
secondary to the fact
that there is a
mountain in your way.
- Do what you're going
to do about it.
- You will never
master being a whole
without first knowing that
some of the pieces we lose stay
lost, and that sometimes,
the cost of moving forward
is having to leave behind
that part of yourself
and learn to exist without
it, to bow in respect
to whatever mountain
is in your way,
but then to do what you're
going to do about it.
- Oh, shit.
- Fuck.
- Oh, shit, fuck.
- What have I done, Stewart?
- What have I done?
- Hey, guys.
- Keep in mind, I do
not have my pedal.
- Keeping it in mind.
- [INAUDIBLE] maps, our hearts.
- Our hearts.
- [INAUDIBLE]
- Wait for a sign.
- My life continues to be very
much what it is, another hotel
room, more touring.
- The hope is that something
grows out of that experience.
- Cool.
- Awesome.
- I'm not an artist in the
conventional sense of like,
here's a canvas, and
here's some paint.
- Everything that
comes out of me is
something that's turning
around inside of me,
kind of like this hurricane.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- You try to fight in the calm
of it, the center of it.
- How can I turn all of this
turmoil, all of this pain,
or joy, or all of the
things that make you human,
the things that make
you feel, how can I
take hold of those things?
- And the storm of that,
and find the center of it,
the calm of it.
- And exist in there long enough
to bring those things together
in a way that is
focused and meaningful.
- And not meaningful for
other people to consume.
- Some things have to be for me.
- And maybe this is
one of those things.
- My flag is a traffic light.
- And at night it glows
red, amber, and green.
- And I've seen them everywhere.
- So I guess in that sense,
the road really is my home.
- And I've got poem
after poem of what
it's like miss a home cooked
meal, of what it's like to wake
up and feel my arm
draped over your absence,
because I missed breathing
in your skin like incense.
- And I bet you never knew that
when I'm sleeping beside you,
I wake up just to
make sure I'm holding.
- You feel like a
mountain that doesn't
know it's being climbed.
- As your breath is timed
with the in and out of mine,
I run my hand up your spine
like it was the center line
of a highway with no stop sign.
- Hit the intersection where
your shoulders meet your neck,
and pass the car wrecks
of ex-boyfriends parallel
parked on dead ends.
- And I just hope your skin
lends me an extra mile
so I can slow down.
- Take a while to get
my the landscape
and drape my arm over your
being there this time.
- When it comes to your skin,
I'm a drunk driver just trying
to walk a straight line.
- There are no directions
highlight them the best
to mark this spot.
- We thought it was
waiting for us at the end
of a very long distance.
- Shane Koyczan?
- Yeah?
- Hi.
- Hi.
- I'm Juda.
- I've seen your stuff on YouTube.
- And definitely on
my downer days,
I definitely listen to it.
- Oh, cheers.
- Thank you so much.
- It's so weird to be able
to be open with strangers,
or you know, like me
in an audience, like--
How's it going?
- -- and struggle, really, really
on that one on one level.
- Get to know somebody.
- Who is your dad?
- Who's your dad?
- You know?
- It's hard.
- It feels almost impossible.
- Still there.
- It's like, how am I supposed
to tear all of it down?
- How am I supposed
to make it go away
and have it so it's
just us standing there?
- So, OK.
- I didn't get an actual
number from you.
- How many brothers and
sisters did you have?
- OK.
- Let's see.
- There's myself, my brother
John, Dave and Ralph.
- And then the girls, there's
Diane, Kathy, Joyce, Valerie,
Shirley.
- Holy smokes.
- That's a huge family.
- When I first got back
in touch with you,
and I found out
that I had a sister,
I didn't know that
growing up at all.
- I heard nothing about that.
- And so there was
a part of my life
where I was just like,
how am I just being
cut out from this other
side of my family?
- Did you just not know
how to get a hold of me,
or like to tell me that?
- Or--
For a large part of
that time, I felt like I
was the one that was cut out.
- So many times I'd
write you a letter,
and I just couldn't hit
the dog-on send button.
- Yeah.
- Like who the heck am I
after all these years
of not being in his life
just to try and push
my way into his life.
- I thought that--
and I still do--
feel that I haven't
earned the right.
- There's a lot of
digging that happens
to unearth the truth of
what it is I'm feeling
or what it is I'm
thinking or going through.
- And so, I started to
write a piece about my dad
and the process of
forgiveness and what
that costs me to do that.
- I accept 100% of this
responsibility for your mom
and I breaking up.
- When my daughter was born,
that was the icing on the cake.
- It kind of hurts to hear that
it was worth it the second time
around, but not the
first time around.
- But, you learn by
your own mistakes.
- And that's exactly what--
No, and that's the thing.
- Like I can't sit here
and say that I've lived
a mistake free life.
- I've made my mistakes, too.
- I have my regrets, as well.
- So I do understand.
- And so, when you ask me,
why is a relationship
with my father important, is
because he is part of my story.
- I didn't realize I
think at the time
that my story isn't
just my story.
- My story is made up into
stories of other people.
- How are you?
- Aw, you're very shy.
- That's all right.
- The Illinois version of
Mick Jagger right here.
- Yeah, I got the
moves and everything.
- This is the one.
- That is my pride and joy.
- That's gorgeous.
- I know it's been, what,
10 months since I've
promised it to you.
- Aw, that's all right.
- I'm not in a hurry.
- It's not pretty.
- But at the same time, let
me read you this just so you
get a sense of where I'm going.
- Before I tell you what
forgiving you cost me,
understand first
that I forgive you.
- What's the purpose of my heart
if I can at least do that.
- Fact is, I'm here.
- It doesn't matter if my becoming
was a willful act of lust
or an accident of youth.
- The truth is you are half
of the reason I exist.
- You should know also that
existence has historically not
been my favorite activity.
- How fucked up is it that pain
became a source of comfort
in my life?
- But I don't mean
it in a dark way.
- I mean it in a
way-- it's like this
is how I learned to build fire.
- This is how I learned
to make light.
- All right.
- [INAUDIBLE]
- We'll get a five of diamonds.
- I'd like to cut it out.
- I just want him to teach me
something, something simple,
something that he
knows how to do.
- The fish will be
almost like a letter C.
- And then as you're
pulling, it would
continue twirling like that.
- OK.
- All right.
- Sounds good.
- That one's better only
because it's $10 cheaper.
- OK.
- I don't see him having problems.
- I think I'm the one
with the problems.
- I'll show you the simplest--
You look at all
these movie stars.
- They've got it made.
- They've got everything,
yet sometimes they
say, well, I'm lonely.
- How can you be lonely?
- I wish you could
understand how it feels.
- But I hope you'll never have to.
- I hope you'll never
know the things I knew,
things about despair,
and every other thing it
cost me to get through.
- I hope you grew up safely.
- I worry I was a distant cousin
who never came to visit.
- I hope you had friends,
and that there well meaning
was your first aid kit.
- A lot of people
get the genre wrong
when they talk about bullying.
- People who see it from the
outside think that it's drama.
- People who live it
understand that it's horror.
- We're all just trying
to outrun the monster.
- I keep hoping for catharsis,
like the school bus on a snow
day.
- It never comes.
- The only way to connect
with people in this world
is to put something into
the space in between,
to build an environment
with words or with sound
or with gesture or affection.
- It becomes very clear along
the way who the people are
that deserve more of your
time, and who the people are
that deserve less of your
time, because time really
is the only commodity you have.
- It's-- it's the only thing of--
it's the only real currency.
- The most that we can hope for in
this life is to feel connected
and to feel like our
words can convey truth.
- In the end, we're all which
we had danced for, and cuddled
everlastingly.
- In the end, we'll all
wish that we had spent
our wishes on what mattered.
- We should have scattered my
feet like seeds upon the world.
- Legs like stems crawled
around my bones and bursting
through the floor.
- I should have been planted in
rhythm, watered with defiance.
- I should have danced more.
- I should have worn
my heart on my shoes.
- Should have cared less about
whose toes I was stepping on
by doing what brought me joy.
- As a boy, I watched
other children
vanish the instant faded from
the heavy axe of judgment
come down upon their hearts.
- As an artist, I want to
carve monuments to the fact
that sacrifice is a
cemetery to our spare parts.
- All of the things we
were made to learn
to live without, the parts of
ourselves we were forced to let
go.
- I don't know a lot,
but I know this.
- The second any of us are
judged for being a carefree,
the child in us is made
to stand permanently
in the corner forever hushed.
- So eternally silent, the
quiet will be the only thing
to remain when the
entire world is ended.
- I should have attended
more classes of fuck you,
I'm not yours to
control anymore.
- I'll do what I please.
- Please excuse me.
- I'd like to dance more.
- [APPLAUSE]
- See, I'm struggling to
find the right words here.
- You talked about
building bridges.
- Yeah.
- And we're on a bridge?
- Woo.
- Crazy.
- Why are you trying
to build bridges
with people at this
particular point in your life?
- I've always wanted
these relationships.
- It was just a
question of, do I have
the tools it takes to
build those bridges?
- You know how long it's
taken for me to just
be able to talk to someone?
- And it is just another person.
- It's so bizarre, because
what I do on stage,
people assume, oh, he must
be a really good communicator
in person, or--
vocabulary is great.
- But you need-- there's a
different set of skills
that need to go
along with it if you
want to build something deeper.
- There's always going to be fear.
- There's always going
to be hesitation.
- There's always
going to be doubt.
- Hey, how are you?
- I'm good.
- How are you?
- Very good.
- Nice to see you.
- This is a picture from
that family reunion.
- So, there's a lot
of people there.
- Holy smokes.
- I don't know any
of these people.
- Yeah, that's all
on my mom's side.
- That's me when I was younger.
- Oh, my god.
- Harland, look at you, country
singer extraordinaire.
- That's insane.
- My teacher, he's like,
what's your last name?
- I'm like, Koyczan.
- He's like, that sounds familiar.
- Do you know Shane Koyczan?
- I'm like, yeah, that's my uncle.
- And he's like, oh my gosh.
- If you see him again,
tell him he's a big fan.
- And he says Hello.
- That's awesome.
- We'll get a picture later.
- OK.
- When were you born?
- In 86.
- So you had Harland then when--
20-ish, like 19, 20.
- Right.
- When did dad tell you about me?
- I think-- I don't know.
- I was about seven.
- It kind of blew my mind,
because I'm thinking,
I'm an only child.
- And then when I found out
that I did have a brother,
I was just like, what?
- Where?
- Who?
- What's his name?
- And why am I just finding
this out, kind of thing.
- To confess something
to you, I grew up,
I was very resentful
of my dad, knowing
that when I discovered
about you and your life,
it was really difficult
to sort of look at it
and then be like, well,
what was wrong with me
that you couldn't stick around?
- And I was just really hard to
sort of discover that he still
had a very full and happy life.
- Meanwhile, I was out there on
my own suffering through it
or struggling through it.
- Dad doesn't know
about this yet at all.
- And please just keep
it between us for now.
- But I'm writing a piece that--
in trying to find some sort
of catharsis between us.
- And part of it's
going to be very hard,
because the first part of it,
I need to address that venom.
- Because there's a lot of
poison there for a long time.
- And so, it's going to be hard
for him to listen to, I think.
- And as much as I'm trying
to reconcile the past,
it's so that we
can have a future.
- It needs to come out.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, like my son relates
to that a lot as well,
because he doesn't know
his biological father.
- And it's is really
crazy right now, too.
- Like I just found out
recently that my son,
like his biological,
had three more children.
- So Harland's got
like four siblings
out there in this world
that he doesn't even know.
- Right.
- Wow.
- And that's a lot.
- Yeah.
- I thought I only had one.
- Well--
Uh, oh.
- He had that one, but he had
a couple of more kids after.
- But that's exciting, huh?
- A bit.
- But a bit shocking.
- A bit shocking for sure.
- Well, like I mean,
that's how I felt when
I found out about your mom.
- I didn't know her at all.
- And so-- but, it's also
opened up a whole new chapter
of my life, right, getting to
know you, getting to meet you.
- So hopefully you
aren't as stubborn
as I am, and you
take advantage of it
and get to know those
people, because they'll be
important people in your life.
- Do you mind if I ask
you a question, Harland?
- No.
- Not at all.
- How do you deal with
growing up and not
having a dad around or
a father figure around?
- Does that matter much to you?
- No.
- No, it doesn't it, eh?
- Why is that?
- Because my great grandfather,
he's basically a dad to me.
- OK.
- So you have a father
figure in your life.
- Yeah.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- What's the point of
love if you can't
use it to forgive people
that hurt you, if we can use
it to do something positive.
- Yes, we-- love hurts us.
- Yes, absolutely.
- It destroys us from
the inside out.
- And when you get
her by love, you
feel it in a very physical way.
- It will knock you on your ass.
- And then you have
a choice of what
you can do with that
feeling, which is still love.
- Why can't you use it
in a positive way?
- Why can't you use it to create
something that can heal,
rather than something
that can just
wound the other person back?
- Maybe I caught some.
- What do you think?
- We're going to have
a nice fish dinner.
- So what I want to do now is--
I wrote something--
OK.
- That has been very
challenging for me to write.
- And it was really difficult
to try and distill everything
down into one--
to one thing that I
could present to you.
- And I just wanted the
opportunity for you
to experience directly
what it is I do.
- And not all of it is
going to be easy to hear.
- Like, I mean, there'll be some
difficult stuff to hear, but--
I can totally understand.
- Yeah, absolutely.
- I'm hoping it's
something that will
help heal the space that exists
between us that keeps us apart.
- There were always words.
- Even when there was no one there
to teach me what they meant.
- Even when the ones
I needed most bent
themselves into hooks that
got caught in my throat,
I wrote down the ones I
couldn't bring myself to say.
- Kept them polished and true
for the someday that is finally
here.
- I don't mean to dig up the past.
- Just let me clear the
cemetery out of my throat,
because there's some
things you should know.
- You should know that
every word I ever wrote
has been in rehearsal for the
now that is finally upon us.
- I don't mean to put
up a fuss about love.
- I just wonder.
- Is there a plot of land in the
territory of your heart for me?
- Is there a place we can lay
our regret to rest peacefully?
- You should know that as a
child, I planted drops of blood
into the ground like seeds
hoping I could grow your ghost
and finally have a reason
for your disappearance.
- Where were you?
- Who were you too busy
being that seeing me
was back burner for so long
that I eventually caught fire,
that I became a
spire of flame you
were too scared to reach out
to for fear of being burned.
- In your absence,
I learned a recipe
for an inferno that
turned everything
it touched into ashes
that refuse to fall apart.
- Others called it stubbornness.
- I called it conviction.
- I rubbed words
together understanding
that friction was the ingredient
needed for the ember that would
grow the blaze in my chest.
- I press my hands into the world
and wondered if the mark I left
would be big enough for
you to finally notice.
- We both made broken
into a work of art
we could not bring
ourselves to look upon,
because we helped sculpt it.
- You gave me half this heart.
- But I'm the one who learned
how to make it love.
- I'm the one attempting to
shove my way to the front row
to the concert of
your apology just
to leave a note at
your feet that says
you don't have to be sorry.
- All I want is to hear
your side of my story.
- Give me my origin.
- Because up until now it's
been lost in the fire
I became anytime anyone ever
asks where my name came from.
- When you tell them
you don't know.
- The conversations go
from hello to goodbye
in the time it takes to
make an excuse good enough
to make walking away easy.
- You should know that
existence has historically not
been my favorite activity.
- It has not been my best subject.
- The thing things your
absence made me feel
became three dots I learned
to connect out of order.
- So let's start with the second.
- The second thing I
ever felt was ugly.
- The first thing I ever
felt was unwanted.
- The third thing I ever felt
was haunted by the belief
that the first thing I felt
was a belt around my neck that
would never loosen, that the
gruesome solitude of the hush
between us would
leave me hanging
from this breaking branch
of our family tree.
- Tell me how many
graveyards make up
the acreage of
skeletons in our closet,
and I'll tell you how words have
become the composite artist I
use while trying to draw
a face for the missing
person of our relationship.
- Tell me that at the beginning of
us is not the end of the world,
that the python curled
around your voice dying.
- Tell me that the
words in you have
been trying to
escape for decades
and that there are
parades of noise
ready to march to the
quiet that sprouted up
between us like a
mountain neither one of us
believe we could climb.
- Tell me we can recycle
clocks, and stop wasting time.
- I am done with the
heartbreak of us.
- I've read the world.
- And there are parts
that make me smile,
chapters like a sundial
that can tell time at night.
- There are stories
born in the dark who
grow up knowing they have
to make their own life.
- There are magicians who
practice sleight of heart,
so no one will know which
life their love is in.
- It's right here.
- I know I'm not supposed to tell.
- But you want to
know how I did it?
- I hid it in words we haven't
said one another yet.
- Laid it evenly
across the alphabet
so that each letter could
support the long heavy weight
we've both been ready to let go
of for the better part of ages.
- I carved it into the
pages I wear like skin.
- Wrote hope across
my body, hoping it
would hold all my read ink in.
- When there was noone,
there were words,
words to plug the holes
in my sinking suspicion
that blame would only ever
offer to sink rather than keep
us afloat.
- There were words
that wrote themselves
into rescue boats
looking for survivors
in the wreckage of our story.
- Words became the
diamonds in mind
from a Quarry of depressions so
fathomless a sea monster's been
said to live in it.
- I know I shouldn't swim there.
- But I find things in its depths.
- I found music in the
way others volunteer
to complete the
unfinished architecture
of my heart, kindness in the
shine that radiates from those
who taught me to chart
my escape from darkness,
bravery in a kiss laid upon
me like grace stumbling
into the long fall of love.
- I have found virtue in
the kind of friendships
that risk sailing with
me in these waters.
- I have seen enough
of doubt to know
that it becomes the beast that
slaughters trust and leaves
wet shreds of dignity hanging
from its greedy teeth.
- So I planted gardens
beneath my feet
to grow my stride towards you,
kept an ocean behind my eyes
believing it could extinguish
the flames I've been wearing
and stop us both from burning.
- I am learning to reach into
the dining room of ugliness
and pull beauty from
the mausoleum it's
been trying to become.
- Sometimes I find
rescue in my own hands.
- Sometimes the pen moves as if
the commands I give it sounds
more like please like I
am begging words to assume
the shape of a love I
cannot use them to explain.
- They do their best.
- But growing up without you,
the machinery in my chest
rusted out like a storm
drain beneath a sky
that would not stop raining.
- So here I am, chaining
lightning to my thunder
and standing on our family
tree hoping I can salvage
your pulse with my electricity.
- When there was noone, and there
was often noone, no words.
- And none of them will
ever echo as violently
as the ones left unspoken.
- None of them will ever shake
our hearts to broken quicker
than the ones we never say.
- I made words my friends,
hoping that if I
got to know them
well enough, they
would help me change our story.
- I'm sorry I can't
rewrite our beginning.
- But there are better
endings to be had.
- Growing up, I learned
to love words.
- I'm told my first word was dad.
- I'm sorry.
- That's OK.
- You're all right?
- I'll be fine.
- OK.
- Do you need some water?
- Oh, God.
- In a 100 years, there'll
be a little blurb
about who Shane Koyczan was.
- What do you want that to say.
- Shut up and say something.
- [MUSIC PLAYING]
- My home videos want me
to think in 50 years
that day will come when all
I've done will render forgotten.
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